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BENEFIT WRONGS

by Maniacal @ 2007-12-16 - 01:34:12

I want to start off with a post about something that I have mentioned on my other blog, namely two areas that I found absolutely stupid within the Benefits system of the UK.

The first point is about Carers Allowence. This is a strange thing that I really didn't understand and is a loophole that, as far I know, still hasn't been closed but has the potential to save the government some money if they were to close it. If you have a couple who are recieving benefit, normally DLA or AA, to help with care costs because they are not able to look after themselves then each of them would also be able to claim and recieve Carers Allowence for looking after the other one. Basically this means that although someone is not able to look after themselves and gets money to help towards the costs of help, they can also get money for looking after someone else that is also not able to look after themselves. If someone could explain the logic of that to me I'd really like to understand.

The second point is, to me, a bit more important and even more difficult to understand. It involves having to pay for health costs when you are on Benefits, mainly prescription charges and dental charges. If you are in reciept of Income Support you are automatically exempt from paying these costs, weither or not you are sick, but if you are in reciept of Incapacity Benefit (because you are too sick to work) you have to claim seperately for an exemption certificate and because this claim is adjudicated on independently of the original claim you have to wait for it to be processed, which could take longer than the original claim so there will be a certain amount of time when you will have to pay the costs until you get the certificate. Of course you can claim the money back, but you have to put in yet another claim to do this. The other thing is that you are given no guarantee that you will actually be given the certificate in the first place, after all if you were told that you would definately get one why would you need to claim it? Surely it would just be an automatic exemption the same as it is for anyone on Income Support? This situation makes no sense at all to me and if anyone could explain to me why it is done this way I would be eternally grateful.

Well, that's all for this post, see ya soon.
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Sounds like a big runaround with the damn government to me.

ManiacalManiacal [Member]
2007-12-17 @ 17:28

There are a few things like this in the benefit system, I really think a lot of it is either to keep people in jobs or just to stop people getting money.

I believe it may be a bit of both my friend. Cheers

The benefits system is a farce. Mum gave up work to look after nan full time but because she receives a pension (classed as a benefit) then neither she nor nan can claim carers allowance. Mum also has to pay some of the costs for the carers that come in as well. She is getting more and more into debt, it is silly!

Makes you wonder if it is worth it at all!

Hugs xx

ManiacalManiacal [Member]
2007-12-17 @ 17:30

It always seems to be the way that the people that really need the money are the ones least likely to be entitled to it according to the government's rules.

x

ShipscookShipscook [Member]
2007-12-18 @ 10:39

Yet those wealthy enough to be able to afford a good accountant can save enough to buy a gong from the bastards

ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
2007-12-28 @ 09:32

the second point is quite stupid indeed, but again you can see how it evolved by always adding to existing procedures rather than replacing them.

As to the first point, this is quite common across many things. For instance, as a scuba diving instructor you are allowed to take diving someone who cannot dive, that is, you are responsible to yourself and someone who hinders you. On the other hand, you are not allowed to go diving on your own.

And many other examples.
Most of the time we are not very smart, are we? It's more surprising that we get things right every now and then :>

Old-NickOld-Nick pro
2008-01-21 @ 15:23

I have long since given up trying to understand the way this country runs, not only with regards to benifits but with so many aspects of life when a government agency is involed.

I used to think I was stupid. Well OK, stupider.

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